The public sentiment surrounding the Russia-Ukraine peace talks is overwhelmingly negative, characterized by skepticism and frustration regarding the sincerity of the leaders involved, particularly Putin's intentions. Many commenters denounce the ongoing violence and view the negotiations as power plays rather than genuine efforts for peace, expressing a strong desire for Ukraine's sovereignty and an urgent call to cease military actions.

President Putin

Ukrainian Leadership

International Leaders

Sad that Zelensky have to play along to keep Trump happy. This shit ain’t going anywhere. 

Just pump Ukraine with supplies and arm them. 

wizgset27

Do diplomacy as if you weren't fighting, fight as if you weren't talking.

TremendousVarmint

I highly doubt that. I think this is mainly a rhetoric to please Trump.

irimiash

Free_Philly

myroosterprettyfunny

Acrobatic_Morning17

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The best way to get Putin round the table for peace talks is by forcing him. The Russian people have made it very clear that they don’t care about the war as long as they don’t feel it, so let it rain missiles on Moscow (hit some office blocks at night when nobody’s around) and the people might finally turn against their dictator.

Tman11S

For a man who promised to end this war on day one he sure is behind schedule.

ukrokit2

Interesting that talks about peace in Ukraine would have to be secret...

Nagash24

Russia has no interest in peace unless it can occupy all Ukraine for free.

Life-Card-1607

Oh so the same thing Europe has tried for many years already is still not working! Suprised pikachu face.

arknsaw97

Atitkos

Peace Talks ? Are they still going on ? I thought Trumpy &amp; the Gang had it all sorted in 24 hrs ? Call me naïve, I thought he was the Time Magazine face of peace for 2025. The Prez who "ends wars" ? The Nobel Peace Prize recipient ?

I feel ashamed to be so gullible.

2GR-AURION

Europe and America have no more cards to play.  Russia is advancing on the battlefield and their economy is fine.  Chasiv Yar and Luhansk have been liberated recently.
I mean Russia knows that a ceasefire means Ukraine regroups and rearms.  
Europe and America need to accept the fact that Ukraine is doomed.  Accept Russian terms for peace, save Ukraine

AffectionateSignal53

The US has not incentive to achieve piece with russia.
As long as the war goes on europe will keep buying their weapons and LNG.

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I may get downvoted for this but Ukraine’s demand for peace is fair and consistent, as it wants a ceasefire and complete withdrawal of Russian troops from Ukraine, unlike Russia’s demand which always changes and are getting more and more ridiculous to the point of demanding NATO to pull out of the Baltic states as one of their demands.

Signal-Initial-7841

A new round of "retreat entirely and pay us reparations for absolutely nothing in return", or a more serious proposal?


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Weird_Point_4262

Last time they were offered negotiations they refused to go until Russia gave them a 30 day ceasefire, Trump had to drag them to the negotiating table and when they got there all they would do is demand a 30 day ceasefire before any peace terms were discussed.  

Wonder what changed in the last in the last 60 days?  I see Zelensky is still making his silly demand of negotiating directly with Putin though.  Curious what his goal is with that - he clearly has an agenda/plan because they pushed for it super hard in May and it's such a weird ask, especially when neither side is actually going to make a deal and they both know it.

imunfair

I wonder why? The situation on the ground hasn't changed enough on either side to have created new compromises in talks...so expect maximalist demands from both sides....leaked demands and childishness.

The talks so far have been a farce. In any negotiation both sides present their demands and then negotiate to find a satisfactory way forward. In this talks both side issue demands, leak it to the press....go home

bluecheese2040

Just as Budanov predicted; Ukraine would face crisis if the war continued on into summer. 

To set the background for everyone, this war is following a predictable pattern that is causing a shift in behavior for Ukraine. 

Contrary to the common narrative and basic common sense, Russia is not running out of anything. 

Russia is slowly and steadily increasing their production of all weapons, munitions and vehicles. 

The daily growth of these munitions is slowly wearing down the last vestiges of life in the Ukrainian military. TCC is struggling to find replacements. Violence against the TCC is escalating. 

Ukraine has experienced successive mass drone attacks by Russia. 

The minimum number of drones Russia has launched for several weeks is 100. Production is expanding so much that we are seeing Russia use Gerans tactically. 

We also saw the first **air burst** Harpey-1A used against a mobile radar system. 

Despite the proclamations, things are looking very bleak for Ukraine. 

And just like in past stalemates, eventually one side collapses. Ukraine is in danger of collapsing.

Mundane_Emu8921

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Russian Reich does not want peace. It wants to kill, destroy and occupy. Anyone still believing this farce of them wanting peace, is an idiot. The words and more importantly the actions speak for themselves.

Tricky_Weight5865

Russian delegation quotes:

"We don’t want war, but we’re ready to fight for a year, two, three—however long it takes. We fought Sweden for 21 years. How long are you ready to fight?"

"Maybe some of those sitting here at this table will lose more of their loved ones. Russia is prepared to fight forever.”

source:

- https://x.com/olliecarroll/status/1923357966880604303
- https://x.com/RobynDixon__/status/1923395655151550606

yikes

teddmagwell

"This could've been an email" moment between the two countries

samratvishaljain

ISTANBUL, Turkey (AP) — The first direct peace talks between Russia and Ukraine since the early weeks of Moscow’s 2022 invasion ended Friday after less than two hours, and a senior Ukrainian official said the Russian side introduced new “unacceptable demands.”

Before they adjourned, Kyiv and Moscow agreed to exchange 1,000 prisoners of war each, according to the heads of both delegations, in what would be their biggest such swap since the war began.

Both sides also discussed a ceasefire and a meeting between their heads of state, according to chief Ukrainian delegate Rustem Umerov.

Russian presidential aide Vladimir Medinsky, who headed Moscow’s delegation, said both sides agreed to provide each other with detailed ceasefire proposals and a meeting by their heads of state..

During the talks, a senior Ukrainian official said Russia introduced new “unacceptable demands” to withdraw Ukrainian forces from huge swaths of it’s own territory. The official spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to make official statements.

The demands had not been previously discussed, the official said.

He said the Ukrainian side reiterated it remained focused on achieving real progress — an immediate ceasefire and a pathway to substantive diplomacy, “just like the U.S., European partners, and other countries proposed,” the official added.

The two sides sat at a U-shaped table but remained far apart in their conditions for ending the war. U.S. President Donald Trump, who has pressed both Moscow and Kyiv for an end to the conflict, saying a meeting between himself and Russian President Vladimir Putin would happen “as soon as we can set it up.”

“I think it’s time for us to just do it,” Trump told reporters in Abu Dhabi as he wrapped up a trip to the Middle East.

VictorEmmanuelIV

Hey, longer than Russia not violating a ceasefire.

Thought Trump would have this settled on day one like he said..

The-cultured-swine39

Everyone knew the Russian delegation was a dog-and-pony show with no actual interest in negotiating, but Ukraine had to show up to avoid giving rage baiters easy talking points to latch onto.

DoggedStooge

Ukraine: Please leave our country

Russia: no

Ukraine : please we want to be a free independent country 

Russia: you will join USSR and be Russian 

Ukraine : no, we are Ukrainian and want to determine our future ourselves 

Russia: Ukraine demands are unreasonable

asexyshaytan

Russia is only ensuring their demographic demise by continuing this conflict. The only people left will be those too old to fight (if age ever mattered) and the criminals that survived to come home still acting like criminals and a hefty dose of ptsd.

LeadOnion

inbetween-genders

Why can't I get unhinged Trump on my side even once??!! Why does he ALWAYS have to be both a chaotic psycho AND do the wrong thing. Couldn't he, just this once, be a chaotic psycho and tell Russia that unless they come to terms with Ukraine we'll fucking lock down the airspace over Ukraine and increase weapons shipments?? Goddamnit.

giantrhino

"stop attacking us"
"Nyet"

*Meeting ends*

kombuchawow

I seem to recall Trump saying recently that if Putin rejects peace he was gonna back Ukraine "like you've never believed." Let's see it Donnie

Tacklinggnome87

Ukraine: “Are you going to stop invading our country?”.
Russia: “Nope”
Meeting adjourned

Logical_Frosting_277

It was bullshit anyway. I dont think the Ukrainians believed it but they need to work with it, to hopefully keep the US in the war.

Mrstrawberry209

Shawn_The_Sheep777

They fought Sweden 21 years, and lost less men than in Ukraine for 3 years.

L0gard

TYBTD

Ukraine: “Withdraw and go home.”
Russia: “No.”
Ukraine: “Get Fucked”

Dismissed.

Fun_Beat1578

Russia: "Surrender"

Ukraine: "No"

US: Shrug emoji, \*walks out\*

count023

Peace talks with the aggressors hell bent on spite and genocide is pointless.

Gloomy-Quality-1106

I can't believe how much Putin screwed himself with this war, he can't stop it without a serious concern of a recession and subsequent protests, I wonder when he gets taken out of power how much longer he would've lasted had he not reignited the war

ShinyStarSam

Anither solid source: "❗️The Russians demanded Ukraine withdraw entirely from 4 of its regions. After being refused by the Ukrainian delegation, they stood up and said, “Next time, it’ll be 5.”

prophecy555

Holy shit if you ever want to imagine hell just look at this table of old rich men discussing how much longer kids have to go killing each other for, for them, for no reason. (Obviously not the Ukrainian side)

Notallowedhe

I'm surprised it lasted that long. Fuck Russia

Kooky-Parfait-2706

Nice they could come to an agreement so fast.

RossCollinsRDT

William_Ballsucker

&gt; We don't want war

But... Russia started it. Unprovoked. And they slaughtered civilians. Unprovoked. 

&gt; We're willing to fight forever

*Why*?

Page8988

Kiwi_CunderThunt

Again to the surprise of fucking no one. The only surprising part was the fact it lasted more than 10 minutes.

IllSurprise3049

And this is a lesson to lads out there to not exchange a nuclear arsenal for a bread crumbles. No matter what USA promises you.

BetaStateGames

Ukraine: “Please leave”
Russia: “No, we want war with you and will fight for many more years if we have to…”
Ukraine: Well Fuck you I guess….

Meeting has concluded….

itsvoogle

ruzzia won't stop.  I get frustrated thinking that any peace plan where Ukraine has to surrender land is anything other than contentious.  Give ruzzia land now and they will return later to take more.  Bet on it.

Significant-Mud2572

Wait did trump brokered that one too? Another world record wow

Mutchmore

That wasn't a peace talk. That was a speech about no surrender

Eternity13_12

anuiswatching

Scary_Routine_971

honestly, if putin went for north korea, no one would care. I don't even think xi would bat an eye. he chose the wrong country to fuck with

kqlx

no_warning-shots117

EntertainerSoggy9837

AppropriateWay857

So they're fighting for nothing but made up bollocks in an effort to seize land ultimately and illegally and everyone is just sat back tucking their balls between their legs like fucking cowards...got it.

peanutbutteroverload

EnjoyTheIcing

Russia as the aggressor shouldn't get to dictate terms at all.

t33-retro

Putin asked for this peace talks and as soon as Ukraine agreed, Putin all of a sudden didn't want the peace talks anymore. He seems to be oblivious as to how incredibly lame this makes him look.

Roselily808

We have staff meetings where the "for the good of the order" lasts longer than these peace talks, we get just as much done unfortunately.

athos5

I thought trump already ended this war?!

/s

katsusan

Put on your rubber boots cause here comes the BS.

DirkDongus

Weird to cite a conflict that ended in stalemate and where Russia got basically nothing. 

Fuck Russia.

Brannigan: "You see, killbots have a preset kill limit. Knowing their weakness, I sent wave after wave of my own men at them until they reached their limit and shut down. Kif, show them the medal I won."

Nihilistic_Navigator

The Russian delegation looked a little too much like what I thought they would.

EsteGueyEsChingon

SirHolyCow

I HATE how blatantly obvious it is that Putin is just stalling because he knows that Trump has this stupid fantasy in his head that he can be friends with Russia. WE NEED SANCTIONS TRUMP, Putin isn’t keeping his side of the deal!

Correct_Literature22

I feel for the Russian population in a sense that Putin really just sees them as meat bags to be thrown into battle. Like, I just don’t truly get it …

brillopadBruva

Paul_the_surfer

Still though, they agreed to exchange all heavily wounded POWs and all POWs under age of 25.

hypnotoad94

designbydesign

They need to bomb the rest of their jets.

Edexote

Time for more drones from Ukraine hitting Russia.

urlond

RustCohle_23

After yesterday I'm surprised they even met. Did Russian come with Ryanair

RemnantOfSpotOn

By the next time, when Ukraine will have destroyed some more irreplaceable equipment they may have more willingness to establish that peace

got_light

vergorli

*(translated by Google because I'm lazy and it's good enough)*

Proposals of the Russian Federation (Memorandum) on the settlement of the Ukrainian crisis

Section I

Main parameters of the final settlement

- International legal recognition of the incorporation of Crimea, the LPR, the DPR, the Zaporizhia and Kherson regions into the Russian Federation; complete withdrawal of units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and other paramilitary formations of Ukraine from their territories;
- neutrality of Ukraine, which implies its refusal to join military alliances and coalitions, as well as a ban on any military activity of third states on the territory of Ukraine and the deployment of foreign armed formations, military bases, and military infrastructure there;
termination of and refusal to conclude in the future international treaties and agreements incompatible with the provisions of paragraph 2 of this Section;
- confirmation of the status of Ukraine as a state that does not possess nuclear and other WMD, with the establishment of a direct ban on their acceptance, transit and deployment on the territory of Ukraine;
- establishment of the maximum number of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and other military formations of Ukraine, the maximum number of weapons and military equipment and their permissible characteristics; dissolution of Ukrainian nationalist formations within the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Guard;
- ensuring the full rights, freedoms and interests of the Russian and Russian-speaking population; granting the Russian language the status of an official language;
- legislative prohibition of the glorification and propaganda of Nazism and neo-Nazism, dissolution of nationalist organizations, parties;
- lifting of all current and refusal to introduce new economic sanctions, prohibitions and restrictive measures between the Russian Federation and Ukraine;
- resolution of a range of issues related to family reunification and displaced persons;
- waiver of mutual claims in connection with damage caused in military operations;
- lifting of restrictions regarding the UOC;
- phased restoration of diplomatic and economic relations (including gas transit), transport and other communications, including with third countries;

Section II

Terms of the Ceasefire

Option 1.

Beginning of the complete withdrawal of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and other paramilitary formations of Ukraine from the territory of the Russian Federation, including the DPR, LPR, Zaporizhia and Kherson regions, and their withdrawal to a distance from the borders of the Russian Federation agreed upon by the Parties in accordance with the approved Regulation.

Option 2. "Package Proposal":

- Prohibition on the redeployment of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and other paramilitary formations of Ukraine, with the exception of movements for the purpose of withdrawal to a distance from the borders of the Russian Federation agreed upon by the Parties;
- Termination of mobilization and beginning of demobilization;
- Termination of foreign supplies of military products and foreign military assistance to Ukraine, including the provision of satellite communications services and the provision of intelligence;
- Exclusion of the military presence of third countries on the territory of Ukraine, termination of the participation of foreign specialists in military operations on the side of Ukraine;
- Guarantee of Ukraine's renunciation of sabotage and subversive activities against the Russian Federation and its citizens;
creation of a bilateral Ceasefire Monitoring and Control Center;
- mutual amnesty of "political prisoners" and release of detained civilians:
- lifting of martial law in Ukraine;
- announcement of the date of the elections of the President of Ukraine and the Verkhovna Rada, which must take place no later than 100 days after the lifting of martial law;
- signing of the Agreement on the implementation of the provisions contained in Section I.

Section III

Sequence of steps and deadlines for their implementation

- beginning of work on the text of the Agreement;
- declaration of a 2-3-day truce to collect the bodies of the dead in the "gray zone";
- unilateral transfer of 6,000 bodies of servicemen of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to the Ukrainian Armed Forces;
- signing of the Memorandum on the Ceasefire with specific dates for the implementation of all its provisions and determination of the date of signing of the future Agreement on the Final Settlement (hereinafter referred to as the Agreement);
- from the moment of the beginning of the withdrawal of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, a 30-day ceasefire is established. In this case, the complete withdrawal of the Ukrainian Armed Forces from the territory of the Russian Federation and the full implementation of the “package agreement” must be carried out within these 30 days;
- holding elections, forming government bodies on the territory of Ukraine;
- signing the Treaty;
- approval of the signed Treaty by a legally binding resolution of the UN Security Council;
- ratification, entry into force and implementation of the Treaty.

orthoxerox

Just a reminder that you can donate directly to Ukraine’s government to pay for defence, medical care, education etc here U24.gov.ua

leginfr

Russia wants to get rid of the next batch of 40.

silverionmox

Until trump and some others in the West keep giving putin hope, they won't stop.

BMP83

There was absolutely zero chance they would agree 2 days ago.  Less than zero after the drone attack by Ukraine.   That would look like Russia signaling weakness and defeat and cripple Putin’s authority at home.

Flipadelphia26

Iamoggierock

Can these useless things just be stopped?

Military power is the only way that drives Tsars forces away.

articman123

dnemonicterrier

Well duh. These "talks" are a massive waste of time and money.

djquu

Well Russia needs to present something “as result” of every such meeting to keep fooling people

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President Putin confirmed ongoing military operations in Ukraine despite increased calls for peace talks, reflecting the continued volatility in the region.

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